Why Synthetic Fuel Could Replace Electric Cars

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Synthetic fuels are fuels made from water and carbon dioxide from the air. You split the water into hydrogen and oxygen, and combine the oxygen with CO2 to create hydrocarbons. Basically what burning fuel does but in reverse. If the energy used to do this comes from a sustainable source (i.e. wind or solar) you will have net zero emissions, and none of the environmental impact of mining the metals used in batteries. This could effectively make ICE engines better for the environment than EVs.

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Lotfi Eldin
Lotfi Eldin Prieš 2 val
what about just ethanol or biodiesel? simple?
Anthony
Anthony Prieš 5 val
What about ethanol?? Such as E85???? Has anyone forgotten about this type of fuel??
Bitchesloveme Ok
Bitchesloveme Ok Prieš dieną
Porsche be saving car enthusiasts
Andile Matroshe
Andile Matroshe Prieš dieną
EVs are not clean .. just great marketing and ignorance from the rest of us .. enough people say something enough time its becomes fact... but anyway
XPorter !
XPorter ! Prieš 2 dienas
I’m ok with them being a little dirty if they get this working gas be way to expensive atm
Margaux Culerier
Margaux Culerier Prieš 3 dienas
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Scim
Scim Prieš 5 dienų
can we all just appreciate how well he pronounces Porsche
phillydopey the lner C1
phillydopey the lner C1 Prieš 5 dienų
eletric and lithum still but c02 but synthetic fuel might be pricey because people gotta make money
Aditya Yadav
Aditya Yadav Prieš 6 dienų
We want To show the roar of Fantastic Legacy Cars Like - Mustang , Dodge , GTR ! Porsche May God Bless You !
Kleanthis Karras
Kleanthis Karras Prieš 6 dienų
How much co2 is available in the atmosphere? I mean..for how long??
Arne
Arne Prieš 5 dienų
for very very long because, the cars will have c02 coming from the exhaust plus ther will be other sources for it too, like factories etc
SOUTHERN SAMMY
SOUTHERN SAMMY Prieš 6 dienų
This has to happen I pray that this happens.
Michael Torres
Michael Torres Prieš 9 dienų
Seems like everyone here is missing how inefficient (very expensive) this synthetic fuel would be if actually made/transported in a carbon neutral way. He already said it was expensive though. My guess is that it is so very expensive that very very few people would afford it. Maybe porche owners can afford it, but most folks will not.
Michael Torres
Michael Torres Prieš 4 dienas
@Blake Morris No, ice engines can burn hydrogen, but would need to be specially designed just for hydrogen. Synth gas is supposed to be used just like our current gas, no conversion, no re-design. But maybe synth gas includes advanced eco-friendly versions of things like bio-diesel, and E85?
Blake Morris
Blake Morris Prieš 5 dienų
@Michael Torres Im confused, I thought Efuel is basically hydrogen?
Michael Torres
Michael Torres Prieš 5 dienų
@Blake Morris Oh I am familiar with the concept of economies of scale, but that does not solve all problems. How about we consider using hydrogen as fuel (could be fuel cell, but also can be used in ICE engine.) I think that would be cheaper and more practical than carbon-neutral synth gas. You might reply that hydrogen is impractically expensive, and I could say "it would eventually get cheaper, just like how tesla started by selling a 250k roadster, now they are selling 50k sedans. invest in new technologies that makes things more efficient"
Blake Morris
Blake Morris Prieš 8 dienų
it would eventually get cheaper, just like how tesla started by selling a 250k roadster, now they are selling 50k sedans. invest in new technologies that makes things more efficient
Richy
Richy Prieš 10 dienų
Now, I non-rationally like an engine that goes boom as much as the next guy. However, if there is a method of filtering CO2 out of the atmosphere (which I didn't know) and considering the fact that there is already way too much CO2 in our atmosphere... Wouldn't it be sensible to scale up that filtering of CO2 without pumping it back into the air?
Rmdhn
Rmdhn Prieš 10 dienų
I use the pollution to make the pollution
Alex Cuevas
Alex Cuevas Prieš 10 dienų
Yess, long live the next gen v8 Ford raptor and the loud noise
Daniel Brown
Daniel Brown Prieš 10 dienų
It will never be cheaper than electric, but maybe an option in the future for car collectors. I wouldn't mind paying 20 dollars a gallon on fuel if I only drove the car once every couple weeks.
Michael Davis
Michael Davis Prieš 10 dienų
Wait, so black top is cleaner for the environment than concrete?
Marcus Lindberg
Marcus Lindberg Prieš 10 dienų
The reason companies are launching electric cars now is so they can continue to produce dirty electricity for a while because its needed. And they also whant ppl to pay more for the electricity so companies producing fuel have time to invest in producing electricity instead. So everyone is happy and get to keep their money and stay on top of the world
Lee Smith
Lee Smith Prieš 10 dienų
still don't want the exhaust fumes on the road even if they do make it net zero. leave the co2 where it was, probably more spread out.
Retro Man
Retro Man Prieš 11 dienų
I hope so I pray we can keep our combustion engines forever
Aditya Putra
Aditya Putra Prieš 3 dienas
Me too I'm agree if we can't keep the fossil fuel forever but i disagree if we can't keep the combustion engine forever i prefer the engine sound from exhaust instead speaker i believe there is other way to make ICE as ckean as EV i hope this works and all manufacture see this and then they make ICE cars live forever
Metroplex
Metroplex Prieš 11 dienų
**thinks about that one Transformers: Prime episode about synthetic energon**
St-Ex
St-Ex Prieš 11 dienų
Little remaining problem: synthetic fuel can indeed be made... but for a cost of $20-30 per gallon, as their synthesis is an incredibly complex process. You like that price? I guess that you can afford it if you are a passionate Porsche owner...
St-Ex
St-Ex Prieš 11 dienų
Well... you seem to have forgotten that combustion also unavoidably produce NOx, whether the fuel used is of fossil, synthetic or bio origin! Combustion engines are a good idea... from the late 19th century!
Xiemen Florin
Xiemen Florin Prieš 11 dienų
I think maybe synthetic fuel wil be useful for planes because electric planes is not happening any time soon
XF丨SATÁN
XF丨SATÁN Prieš 11 dienų
Porsche❤️
Bill Bill
Bill Bill Prieš 12 dienų
Yeast sugar and water and you can make fuel you can run in your car 🚗
illumi nadi
illumi nadi Prieš 12 dienų
I once smelled/huff a gallon of gas, for 30min-1hr(I think), in our garage when I was 11. I get high. Never did it again cuz I get scared as fuck
illumi nadi
illumi nadi Prieš 12 dienų
Sounds expensive
illumi nadi
illumi nadi Prieš 12 dienų
I walk and commute cuz I love earth
UN1-TY music
UN1-TY music Prieš 12 dienų
Will it make sound?
m bishop
m bishop Prieš 13 dienų
clickbait bs
James Beckett
James Beckett Prieš 13 dienų
Vote to change the title from could to should
олександр швандер
олександр швандер Prieš 13 dienų
E85.
Gplayer
Gplayer Prieš 14 dienų
The problem witch cleen fule is you have to use a lot of energy to create it insted you can power an electric car and just drive it creating less polution and being more energy effective than using electricity to combine co2 and other chemicals to create gasoline
Idid Yermom
Idid Yermom Prieš 15 dienų
The German's had massive synthetic fuel production facilities in WW2. Carbon Neutral isn't necessary, reduction at any level is progress and it means nothing if China and India continue to pump out CO2 beyond every other country combined.
Robert Balejik
Robert Balejik Prieš 15 dienų
freevalve hybrids running on methanol produced by cheap, safe & clean molten salt nuclear
Gus
Gus Prieš 15 dienų
If auto companies really cared, they'd have already been using E85 or hemp fuel. Both are at least carbon neutral and are a cleaner fuel under combustion.
Natsutoshi Sumita
Natsutoshi Sumita Prieš 15 dienų
I would say synthetic fuel gonna be cheper earlier than electric vehicle would be because EV requires rare metals like lithium
Zachary Archbold
Zachary Archbold Prieš 16 dienų
I wonder if the engine has to be modified to accept the new fuel
Mahdi hussain
Mahdi hussain Prieš 14 dienų
No it doesn't
Patrick O'Sullivan
Patrick O'Sullivan Prieš 17 dienų
First off, great video. I just wanted to add something that you guys didn’t really talk about. It’s a process called Fischer-Tropsch synthesis (discovered in the 1920s by German and Dutch scientists... later utilized by the Germans in wwII). Essentially it is Running carbon monoxide and hydrogen feed gas over a catalyst at high temperatures to produce a wide range of clean hydrocarbons with extremely low sulfur counts (as sulfur isn’t a reactant). Research is still being done on the fundamentals of the process but it hasn’t really taken off very well until recently due to the cost of the catalysts (typically Fe, Co, or Ru). Just something I thought y’all at donut might find interesting to look into.
Jimmy
Jimmy Prieš 17 dienų
I doubt it. Way too political.
GreenBeret1903
GreenBeret1903 Prieš 17 dienų
Gas cars are already cleaner than eletric when you consider the strip mining required to make the batteries
Francisco José Stefanelli
Francisco José Stefanelli Prieš 17 dienų
Here in Brazil is common to use ethanol, from sugar cane, planted here. Almost every car hetero are flex (run with alcohol and gas), but suck, because it runs optimally in gas neither in alcohol.
Daniel Jones
Daniel Jones Prieš 17 dienų
It’s not just Porsche doing this. There’s a company outta Canada doing something very similar that has Bill Gates as it’s top investor
Joshua Harmon
Joshua Harmon Prieš 18 dienų
Guy should of "danced" around the donut, would of sold it better
Markus Schulz
Markus Schulz Prieš 18 dienų
Wood has the same properties and is abundant and cheap. Just change your carburetor... btw, this had already been done nearly 100 years ago.
Melchor Vincent Agot
Melchor Vincent Agot Prieš 19 dienų
I thought this was a WheelHouse episode....
Carlo de Guzman
Carlo de Guzman Prieš 19 dienų
final someone said it... cool things are expensive
Roy Diedesch
Roy Diedesch Prieš 19 dienų
Porsche isn’t the only proponent of this. A lot of motorcycle brands have plans to introduce electric bikes over the year but Ducati has made a statement a few weeks ago that they plan to put all their cards into synthetic fuels as well
Jeremy Finch
Jeremy Finch Prieš 19 dienų
If only we had a pipeline to eliminate diesel powered trucks delivering it all over the US...
Voihan Viineri
Voihan Viineri Prieš 19 dienų
No. Because oil giants won't like that.
M The g
M The g Prieš 19 dienų
Clean combustion makes me bust son
Rambi
Rambi Prieš 19 dienų
Lol, good luck.
Anthony Pritchard
Anthony Pritchard Prieš 19 dienų
Hydro electric power is another way to produce synthetic fuel as is Nuclear which likely would need to be used for electric vehicle charging as well. In BC Canada a very controversial Hydro Electric power dam is being built which is expected to have a negative return that is an economic disaster. Such a process for manufacturing synthetic fuel could change that.
Graham Kingston
Graham Kingston Prieš 19 dienų
Hydrogen can be created at the gas station
SevenDeMagnus
SevenDeMagnus Prieš 19 dienų
Cool
SocialHostage
SocialHostage Prieš 19 dienų
There are already sports cars running on LPG. Cheap and plentiful and clean fuel. Methane an other great option. Methane can also be obtained from natural processes like fermenting biomass cow dung and such.
Vykier
Vykier Prieš 20 dienų
More power to Porche.
Wolfstanus
Wolfstanus Prieš 20 dienų
Knowing alot about electronics and batteries? Yeah electric cars aren't green in the slightest.
Gustavo Rodriguez
Gustavo Rodriguez Prieš 20 dienų
Chile es el mejor país de Chile
Climbing the Sine Curve
Climbing the Sine Curve Prieš 20 dienų
Sounds really stupid
ja co
ja co Prieš 20 dienų
CO2 is plant food idiots.
Elijah Jammer
Elijah Jammer Prieš 21 dieną
I have a chemistry test tomorrow and this video really helped
Toggymok
Toggymok Prieš 21 dieną
@4:27, i would beg to differ against the saying 'NOT MAKING NEW CO2". In the same theory as 'Energy cannot be created or destroyed, it can only be changed'. The Co2 has been on Earth ALL along. The Greta Thundbergs and her zombie followers will suffer a broken brain when you tell them that. Simply the truth. Humans have not created Co2 and unleashed it apon this Earth.
Basghetti Wigs Enthusiast Guild
Basghetti Wigs Enthusiast Guild Prieš 21 dieną
"I'm telling you, the government has a car that runs on water, man."
Anime
Anime Prieš 21 dieną
Hella yes we don't need poo pok cars, think about next gen kids man
LT.XLILCHINOX
LT.XLILCHINOX Prieš 21 dieną
37 dollars per gallon lol ur fucked
Elrog3
Elrog3 Prieš 21 dieną
Its a bit disingenuous to call it a draw on environmental impact during use of the car. Using electricity directly is always going to be more efficient than adding extra in-between steps to get the cars wheels turning. It would take more electricity to create enough synthetic fuel to travel 100 miles than to just go that 100 miles by using an electric engine. And where the specific electricity comes from for making it is completely irrelevant. If you use more solar and wind electricity to make one thing, that's less of the available solar and wind energy that you get to use for other things.
Mutant Ryeff
Mutant Ryeff Prieš 21 dieną
I'm curious about HHO devices.
MrGhost_Gaming28
MrGhost_Gaming28 Prieš 21 dieną
Will this work I hope otherwise I won't have mustang
Thomas Davis
Thomas Davis Prieš 21 dieną
Wow all the efficiency of hydrogen production, carbon sequestration AND internal combustion! We'd better have a huge energy surplus to justify this wasteful fuel source.
Marcus H
Marcus H Prieš 21 dieną
So glad to see billions being invested into a louder, smokier, more air polluting solution to our electric car problem
Austin Robinett
Austin Robinett Prieš 22 dienas
That would be great for the continuation of airfare. Unless they find a way to create an electric jet engine
Raf galvão
Raf galvão Prieš 22 dienas
Looks like this is for airplanes
Sean697
Sean697 Prieš 22 dienas
If you give EV the same requirements you do for synthetic fuels, EV’s and synthetics energy would both be made from carbon neutral sources. The difference being EV’s dont deal in the carbon cycle at at all for operating. But EV’s win on efficiently. You’ll never get the same efficiency as an electric motor over a ICE. So far less electricity used. Now for long haul and other applications there will still be a need for this kind of fuel. I could see them coexisting and having vehicles where it makes sense to use one or the other. But from a solar panel right into your car is gonna be far cheaper and more efficient than this large conversion process.
DAVE
DAVE Prieš 22 dienas
Porshe is a hero ✅
damien parker
damien parker Prieš 22 dienas
Sorry but I think due to the overcomplex and energy intensive nature of this , it seems doomed to be an expensive pie in the sky failure. I think ev's will only get better and cheaper and they will dominate
kobenoyashi
kobenoyashi Prieš 22 dienas
The gas companies must be looking for this type of solution too right?
MotoMatt
MotoMatt Prieš 22 dienas
The DIU is on the case.
Robert Wilhelm
Robert Wilhelm Prieš 22 dienas
Battery acid does more harm to the earth then natural gas. Imagine where all the batteries are gonna go when they're bad. A landfill or junkyard. And they're gonna leak and leak and ruin the natural ground water under the earth and the quality of the dirt for farming. If anything we should be focusing on its hydrogen. As it would expell literal oxygen as a biproduct.
Vincent Loparo III
Vincent Loparo III Prieš 22 dienas
Been saying this for a decade.
Rhai Boi
Rhai Boi Prieš 22 dienas
This reminds me of that water powered car
Albin Baby
Albin Baby Prieš 22 dienas
Automobile sector sucks How many alternatives will they make 1 hydrogen 2 electricity 3 e fuel 4 any thing else
Christopher Carson
Christopher Carson Prieš 23 dienas
I hope I can afford this fuel if its produced
LoveCamping313
LoveCamping313 Prieš 23 dienas
GAY
LoXeras
LoXeras Prieš 23 dienas
Why make Efuels and waste a lot of energy when we just can use the electricity direct 🤦‍♂️ the overall efficiency of an electric car is at 75%, when you run your gascar on Efuels its 13%. So a lot of energy wasted
Jonathan Deinhard
Jonathan Deinhard Prieš 23 dienas
Synthetic fuel is cool and all but it will be pretty expensive as it uses about 5 to 6 times more clean energy than a battery electric Car. But i guess for an emthusiast and a car thats not a daily driver that would be okay. Porsche says it will sell 90% electric in 2030 and the e fuel is only for Oldtimers and Porsche 911.
MegaTronn
MegaTronn Prieš 23 dienas
I'm here for it. We already run cars on corn and I'd also love to see cars running on hemp fuel as well. Investing more into biofuels will ensure that petrol and electric vehicles can coexist on these streets. Besides, not everybody can afford an EV. So this is a really good thing going.
Josh Potter
Josh Potter Prieš 23 dienas
This seems like a much better solution to our problems. We can keep much of our infrastructure and cars on the road. There by reducing pollution even more.
Artemis Fowl
Artemis Fowl Prieš 23 dienas
Carbon isn't the problem... plant more trees and they grow better with more carbon
Miguel Gutierrez
Miguel Gutierrez Prieš 23 dienas
Bcuz Aholez and LilDjckz get along.
I suck at Sim racing
I suck at Sim racing Prieš 23 dienas
Me driving past a Porsche dealership : I N V E S T
WilliamOccamensis
WilliamOccamensis Prieš 23 dienas
I think the Nazis were making synthetic fuel, though it was certainly not carbon-neutral. There is no practical possibility in sight for e-ships or e-aircraft. If this works, presumably a tanker carrying e-fuel could use some of it to power itself.
Carmelo Bilski
Carmelo Bilski Prieš 23 dienas
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Jerome Und
Jerome Und Prieš 24 dienas
Nice marketing play by Porsche but it’s not really doable at scale. Although there is too much CO2 in the atmosphere, its concentration in the air is very small. About 0.05%. This a low density gas too. That’s about 1g per cubic meter of normal air. To capture a large quantity’s of carbon, you would have to get enormous quantity of air inside your extractor. Imagine having to produce millions of tons of this fuel. Also it is very difficult to extract low density gas mixed with other gas. It can be done for a few vehicles, at a high price, but it cannot be done at large for the automotive industry
Devin Tripp
Devin Tripp Prieš 24 dienas
You forgot to mention the actual problem with co2 is that it’s in the atmosphere. So taking it out of the ground and putting it in the atmosphere in the same amounts doesn’t solve the problem
Rosen Dimitrov
Rosen Dimitrov Prieš 24 dienas
So Porsche's alternative to electric vehicle is fuel created by using lots of electricity... interesting 🤔
Saurabh Katarey
Saurabh Katarey Prieš 24 dienas
Instead of making things so complicated better go electrical.
Absolute Longplay
Absolute Longplay Prieš 24 dienas
No way in hell it could work while maintaining the same performance and miles per gallon as real fuel.
JustWasted3HoursHere
JustWasted3HoursHere Prieš 24 dienas
There's no way that Porsche, or any manufacturer for that matter, could produce an "eFuel" in sufficient quantities and at a price point that would make it viable commercially, even if it is supposedly cleaner than EVs. It would take many years to even approach that possibility and by then EVs will have cut prices even more making the challenge even more of a struggle for them. (lithium batteries have fallen in price by about 90% in the last 7 or 8 years and is continuing that trend). Porsche is just trying to protect their legacy, understandably, but I don't see any chance for this to actually become viable.
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